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Spoilery, somewhat disjointed discussion and inquiries re: Moon Over Soho (2011):

First, I liked it! A somewhat tentative connection between the two plot strands of our sisterly jazz vampires and the Faceless Man with his army of chimeras, and a criminally dumb Peter Grant...but then, it's not exactly out of character that Peter has moments of thinking with his dick, and there's no doubt Simone had him enthralled to some degree (I am keeping the joke about succubi to myself; I'm sure you're thanking me for my restraint).

But we still get the pitch-perfect dry humor and all the sardonic tidbits about the London Metropolitan Police; we get the continuation of the fates of our protagonists: Leslie's recovery from her being bodysnatched in Rivers of London; Nightingale's recovery from being shot in the same volume. I find it both wonderfully realistic and emotionally vexing; I love these characters and want them to be whole and happy...if stressed; what's a magic mystery without suspense?

Speaking of, could really have done with more news about Beverley: What is happening on HER end of the hostage exchange situation? Beverley has proven herself curious and reliable enough to be a genuine asset to The Folly. But then again, I assume the next book will pick up the thread of her story again.

To Moon Over Soho, though -- questions and pokes at y'all (no future!book spoilers, please):

1. THE PALE LADY -- We can assume that Molly's rejection of Peter after he (indirectly) killed The Pale Lady is result of some connection between Molly and The Pale Lady; at several points we are told they look and act extremely similar, and flashing back to Rivers of London, even the goriness of their feeding is similar enough. Sidenote, I'm not particularly impressed with the Vagina Dentata linked to "Oriental" lore by Nightingale, though I assume we are not to take Nightingale's word as gospel but roll our eyes at his outdated racist attitude. In any case, what are your theories?

2. THE FACELESS MAN -- For me, any story in any medium stands and falls with its main characters....but even so I obviously prefer good villains to cardboard cutouts (for good villains on genre television, see The Wire's Stringer Bell, Jamie Moriarty on Elementary, and on a lighter note iZombie's Blaine De Beers). The Faceless Man is only barely introduced here. Some of that may be intentional, of course -- Peter is a famously unreliable narrator; TFM does everything in his power to obfuscate who he is and what he wants, except at least some level of material gain -- the chimera club with its horrifying human trafficking element is a clear and, I thought, brilliant example of combining magic and purely human greed. Your take on TFM?

3. THOMAS NIGHTINGALE AND THE MAGIC -- So now we know Nightingale did not cut a deal with the Devil, or even a minor demon; he simply became immortal when "the magic came back." Or at least that's the handbook Walid and Peter are following. It has support in canon so far; the stubborn existence and continued teachings by other Masters and of course TFM are proof enough. But, like Peter states often enough, the laws of physics cannot be broken. Energy comes from somewhere. Just based on these first two books, care to chat?

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Date: 2017-04-07 11:59 am (UTC)
kate_nepveu: sleeping cat carved in brown wood (Default)
From: [personal profile] kate_nepveu
I have had this post open since you made it but I can find nothing to say from the perspective of someone up-to-date that isn't massively annoying! Except that I agree, even with Peter being magically confuzzled the plot is a little hard to buy.

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Date: 2017-04-08 01:12 am (UTC)
kate_nepveu: sleeping cat carved in brown wood (Default)
From: [personal profile] kate_nepveu
I am not saying they will be answered! Just that I can't rewind my brain to the state of post-book-2! (Expectation spoilers also bad!)

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Date: 2017-04-08 11:25 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] msilverstar
Ack, I'm a bit further on and it's been years since I read this so can't really talk. I can promise you that Beverly will be very much a character in future, and The Faceless Man will have some unexpected characteristics.


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